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28/10/03 07:41 pm
Say Anything- John Cusack is a God, and you have
good taste
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I've never even heard of that film.
I've started writing a fic, based on some of the magpie lore I know. Unfortunately, this seems to be, well, local lore, because so far everything i've found online is different. Often different from each other, too.
So far we have:
One for sorrow.
Two for joy.
Three for a girl.
Four for a boy.
Five for silver.
Six for gold.
Seven for a secret never to be told.
Eight's a wish.
Nine's a kiss.
Ten is a bird you must not miss,
Magpie
One for sorrow, two for mirth,
Three for a wedding, four for a birth,
Five for silver, six for gold,
Seven for a secret not to be told.
Eight for heaven, nine for hell,
And ten for the devil's own sel'.
One for sorrow,
two for mirth,
three for a wedding,
four for birth,
five for rich,
six for poor,
Seven for a witch,
I can tell you no more
One's mirth, two's grief,
Three's a wedding, four's death,
Five's heaven, six is hell,
Sen's the devil's ain sel'.
(it's irish - maybe it rhymes better if you have an Irish accent?)
One's sorrow, two's mirth,
Three's a wedding, four's a birth,
Five's a christening, six a dearth,
Seven's heaven, eight is hell,
And nine's the devil his ane sel'.
And for crows, who seem to also get some rather similar rhymes:
One for sorrow,
two for joy,
three for a girl,
for for a boy,
five for silver,
six for gold,
seven for a secret,
never to be told,
eight for a wish,
nine for a kiss,
ten for a time
of joyous bliss.
One crow sorrow,
Two crows mirth,
three, a wedding,
four, a birth,
five brings silver,
six takes wealth,
seven crows a secret,
More I can nae tell.
One for sadness, two for mirth;
Three for marriage, four for birth;
Five for laughing, six for crying:
Seven for sickness, eight for dying;
Nine for silver, ten for gold;
Eleven a secret that will never be told.
We also have things to do should you meet a lone magpie:
- In Scotland and Northern Ireland you salute him
- In some parts of England you wave to him
- A Yorkshire superstition has it that the magpie is associated with witchcraft and therefore an ill omen - you make the sign of a cross or take off your hat in respect to ward off any evil.
- In Korea, a popular folk belief has it that the magpie is a bird of inspirational instinct, which can foretell people that they will have visitors or house guests in the near future.
- in parts of Yorkshire, you should imitate the lone magpie's missing partner - loudly.
- in Liconshire, you should lay to straws across each other on the ground
- in Lancashire they're unlucky in pairs, not on their own
- in devonshire, you have tp spit over your right shoulder three times and say: Clean birds by sevens,/Unclean by twos;/The dove in the heavens/Is the one I choose.
Anyway, my original problem springs from the fact that the version i know only goes up to seven, because more than seven magpies in a group means the world is ending. And I can't find anything on hte web with the same superstition. And apparently I didn't get it from my mother... it's something I associate with my grandmother, so maybe a London superstition? this is starting to bug me. Half the pages I get are about some football club. Presumably a very important famous one, judging by the frequency with which it comes up.
Actually, i remember reading a book about a group of girls who form a magpie club, and the rhyme starts coming true, and I think they might have had the 8 = 'end of the world' superstition. Seriously though, where did I get this bit of folklore from? No one else has heard it!
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Date: 28/10/03 08:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 28/10/03 09:09 pm (UTC)Anyway, you can find it at bleeding hearts (http://www.trowaluvsduo.net/weissweb/bleedinghearts.htm). They both write brilliant WK fics.